Asian property upsurge
The property sector in developing Asian countries got their fair share of the market recovery, with surprising results.
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| Shanghai skyline |
The rise of mainland china
Taking the lead, China’s property sales have reached an astounding 4.4 trillion yuan (US$644 billion) with an increase of 75.5% in bank loans last year. Property prices in 70 cities went up an average of 7.8% in December last year alone, the fastest pace in 18 months. But the amazing increase showed up in major cities – new apartments in Beijing and Shanghai jumped by 50%-60 % from 2008 prices.
The Palais de Fortune gated development, which lies just off the expressway north of the city, consists of three-storey opulent French-style villas of about 1,500 square metres per unit. Tagged at about US$5 million, each villa comes with a ‘panic room’ in the event the four security guards for every five villas cannot be summoned in emergencies – a high selling point for the rich and famous.
Peking House, the only development inside Beijing’s Central Business District, is developed and constructed by the Forte Group – one of China’s 10 top real estate companies. There are 168 townhouses, each ranging from 370 sq metres to 550 sq metres, and residences that are sold for about 50,000 yuan per sq metre. Local celebrities, including actress Li Bingbing and actor Huang Xiaoming, have added glamour to this prestigious address.
In Shanghai, a villa of about 700 sq metres at Forbes Park estate in the Gubei area was recently sold to an anonymous buyer at about 190,000 yuan per sq metre. An all-time high for residential properties in Shanghai, it is almost double the earlier record of 100,000 yuan per sq metre for the Tomson Riviera apartments in Lujiazui financial centre of Pudong district. Developed by Wan Te Yuan, a relatively unknown company, 18 of the 21 villas have been sold and the apartments in the two tower blocks have either been sold or are for rent, with most of the tenants being Chinese investors from Hong Kong and Taiwan, plus a few expatriate executives in multinational firms.
The Sun Ville in Shanghai stands on the high-grade type of holiday villa. Surrounded by hills and water, the development includes 13 isles that are connected to each other by European-style coloured steel bridges. A fully-developed community with all the required amenities, the villas start at 15 million to 40 million RMB yuan; three of the villas have been sold for over 100 million RMB yuan.
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| Peking House |
But with such speedy rebound, surely came cries of a ‘bubble burst’ by analysts worldwide. In addressing such concerns, Premier Wen Jia Bao announced in late December that the Chinese government has taken steps to prevent over-speculation by implementing a number of preventive measures such as a sales tax on second homes and on homes sold within five years of their purchase.
This, however, has not prevented foreign investors from getting a share of the pie.
No stranger to Shanghai property development having arrived about 15 years ago, Singapore’s CapitaLand recently announced that it would be buying over the real estate business of Hong Kong-listed Orient Overseas International for US$2.2 billion. The purchase includes seven sites in Shanghai, Kunshan and Tianjin, with about 1.48 million square metres of floor space.
At the same time, Hong Kong companies including Cheung Kong (Holdings) Ltd, Kerry Properties and Hang Lung Properties are continuing with their developments on the mainland. Not to be left out, leading local private developer SOHO China plans to turn around its developments at a faster rate to meet the growing demands.
Meanwhile, China is speculated to replace Japan as the world’s second largest economy. The World Bank has forecast that world economy will rise by about 2.7% this year, with the Chinese economy due to grow at a spectacular 9%.
Hong Kong ‘Limited’
Last October, just hours after Hong Kong’s chief executive Donald Tsang warned that the city might be facing a real estate bubble, one of the city’s largest real estate developers, Henderson Land, announced that it had sold a duplex apartment on the 68th floor of the Conduit Road 39 building for a record HK$439 million (US$57 million), or HK$88,000 a square foot, excluding parts of the building shared by all residents. The apartment on Hong Kong Island, near the top of a skyscraper overlooking Victoria Harbour, is a two-storey unit with five bedroom suites measuring 6,157 square feet, with a garden of 340 square feet.
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| Hong Kong skyline |
To meet the demands of a growing market, the Hong Kong government auctioned a series of luxury homes in November last year – The Government Property Agency earned HK$30.2 million from an Elm Tree Towers flat, the most expensive lot sold, for which there were 25 bids. The HK$14,892 per square foot price for this unit was also the highest. Seven other homes at The Beverly Hills, Elm Tree Towers and Baguio Villa were sold for between HK$16.1 million and HK$23.2 million.
Colliers International Hong Kong announced in December last year that the luxury residential sector saw record sales in new properties in the first 11 months of 2009, with mainland China buyers taking up about 40%, followed by upgraders, expatriates and investors. The broker predicts that with very limited new supply, low interest rates and capital inflow for 2010, a rise of about 10% is expected for this year.
A recent announcement by CB Richard Ellis Group Inc (CBRE), the world’s largest real estate services firm is more optimistic – fuelled by rich mainland Chinese, the rise is expected to be about 20%. CBRE further reported that luxury home prices soared 51% last year to average an exorbitant HK$18,713 per sq foot!
Meanwhile, local property developer Cheung Kong (Holdings) Ltd, owned by billionaire Li Ka-Shing, predicts a rise of about 15% this year. With home sales in Hong Kong, China and Singapore targeted to exceed HK$100 billion pending government consent for all projects, Cheung Kong looks set for taking the world by storm.
The fact that home prices in Hong Kong are now at an all-time high in 12 years has led the World economic Forum and Goldman Sachs Group Inc to caution against a bubble burst.
But even with the preventive measures recently imposed by the Chinese government to curb speculation, the demand for properties will still be there. With record-low mortgage rates, near-zero interest rates on savings deposits and cash flow from the mainland, land-scarce Hong Kong moves on.
Singapore swings
High-end and luxury home prices have started to climb up this year, and developers and analysts are confident that further growth, even in the mid-end sector, is expected. And among property consultants, the expected price growth is 5%-10% for the most part, although others are predicting an increase of as high as 30%. Sales were also fuelled by the low interest rate climate.
The smooth year began in mid-January as CapitaLand sold 60 apartments in the 165-unit Urban Suites condominium in the Cairnhill area, with prices ranging from an impressive S$2,400 to S$2,700 per sq ft.
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| Urban Suites |
Data released by real estate consultants, Savills Singapore showed that prices of high-end homes in areas including Holland, Shenton Way, Orchard, Bukit Timah and Newton have been climbing since the second quarter of last year.
At the start of 2009, the average unit price of high-end homes dropped to S$1,174 per sq ft in the first quarter from S$1,621 per sq ft in the second quarter of 2008, one property firm said. However, home prices had rebounded and the average unit price of high-end homes towards the end of last year was S$1,543 per sq ft.
Savills is very upbeat about the luxury-home sector as this segment is still lagging in terms of prices compared to the mass and mid-range markets, which have surpassed the previous peak. For the luxury properties, prices are still 25%-30% off the peak.
What with a liberal immigration policy with foreigners now making up about 36% of the population, a relentless influx of well-heeled foreigners into the island state will most likely keep property prices on the upswing.
Vietnam, A gold mine
Experts are predicting that the property market will start to ‘make waves’ towards the later part of the year for investors. And despite the economic difficulties and changing tax policies, developers and investors have managed to come out ahead. In Ho Chi Minh City and Hanoi, construction projects are being sped up to capitalise on improved public infrastructure which include building inter-connecting roads, bridges and highways.
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Foreign investments are also on the rise, with Singapore taking the lead in local real estate. Keppel Land International Limited recently announced their third joint-venture project with Tien Phuoc Company to develop the Dong Nai township, an 11-hectare waterfront residential site for 175 villas along the Saigon River in Ho Chi Minh City. The two other projects are located in District 2 – The Estella, a prime 1,393-unit condominium development and a 30-hectare waterfront residential township developed together with another Vietnamese partner, Tran Thai Co, Ltd.
Following suit is one of Malaysia’s property market leaders, SP Setia Bhd. The company teamed up with Becamex IDC Corporation, one of Vietnam’s top state-owned conglomerates, to develop the Ecolakes My Phuoc township. Spanning 226 hectares within the MyPhuoc Industrial Park, just 40 km north of Ho Chi Minh City, it will be an eco-friendly sanctuary complete with a town centre catering to the needs of its residents.
Berjaya Land Bhd launched the Canal Park Apartments, an integrated development of villas and condominiums with amenities such as shops, hotels, offices and international schools to cater to the needs of its residents.
Local real estate magnate Chi Thanh Company Limited has introduced The Bong Lai Residential Estate, an exclusive development set on the lakeside of the Bong Lai lake system located in Dien Ngoc, Central Vietnam. Fully-furnished designer villas and country homes, flanked by two 18-hole international golf courses and two natural lakes, await the well-heeled.
But for Vietnam’s emerging property market to grow into a sustainable environment, legal and financial frameworks must be improved to encourage more foreign investments into the domestic property market. Meanwhile, the closure of all gold trading floors by the end of March is expected to lead to several trillion dong from the gold exchanges pouring into the stock and property markets.
Prices set to reach 2007 high again?
According to a survey taken during the Thomson Reuters Global Property Outlook 2010 conference held in December last year, property investors are likely to be more interested in developing Asian real estate markets for 2010 than traditional countries like the UK and the US. Some 85% of the attendees said they expected developing Asian markets like China to deliver total returns in excess of 10% in 2010 as economic growth feeds demand for homes, shops and offices.
With more upbeat notes from several developments around the Asian region, there is also talk that prices of luxury homes are predicted to come back to its 2007 high by the end of 2010 or perhaps next year. According to Singapore’s City Developments Executive Chairman, Kwek Leng Beng, this positive outlook is based on the assumption that the world economy will continue to improve. His prediction regarding the increase of high-end prices is not new. Other property consultants have also been tipping an increase in the high-end sector this year. Kwek also said that the opening of the integrated resorts (IRs) in the Sentosa-Marina Bay area will help boost the arrival of many foreigners, especially mainland Chinese and some of them may decide to purchase a home in the country.
On the local front, the experts are also looking at a positive move. CIMB Economic Research said that with a recovery in the world economy, prices should start to rise again this year. Despite the re-introduction of the Real Property Gains Tax (RPGT) at the start of the year, the Malaysian government has set aside more than RM20 million to be spent over the next five years to promote Malaysia as an investment destination under the Malaysia My Second Home programme. REHDA has welcomed this package. And with interest rates remaining low and banks giving out attractive home financing packages, and with a growing supply of properties around the country and beyond, you’ll be spoilt for choice.
My view..
Nothing is certain so far. No one can assure you how good is your investment decision today. Only Time will proof how good is your decision. In property investment, the principles remain the same…the rich continue to invest and control the market. Our country is still to young compare to matured property market like Hong Kong, Singapore, China & Vietnam.
Looking into smaller capital city of Kota Kinabalu, will property market experience bubble? I think the market is still too young and not matured or overblow with supply. I have strong confident that the properties prices will continue to be more stable than any other years before. The main reason still fall back into lack of land for development. Anyone of you ever notice a larger pieces of vacant land undeveloped left over by developer especially prime location like Likas, Lintas, Penampang, BDC, Kingfisher and Kolombong, Signal Hill & etc? Open your eye and see your surrounding housing!!!
Of course some of you might say, properties prices is too high ie terrace house (24sf x 85sf) intermediate lot now is selling at the average of RM400K per unit. Is there a really buyer for it? Yes, last week one of my client (whole family) just bought 4 units directly from developer just after 30 minutes seeing the site. He is one of the “rich” who make it through palm oil business located in Tawau and Lahad Datu. And last month of my another “rich” client just bought one pieces of vacant land at Signal Hill for more than RM10M to keep (that what he told me as he still dont’ have any solid idea for any development). At the end of the day, there are plenty “rich” group of investor in the market that see the “opportunity” which middle class see it as a “risk”. Happy Investing.
You cannot Grow Land..CK Wong & MY DAD

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kk is a booming city. However, i still feel the property price in kk jack up alot….difficult to find any below market value…usually 10-20% above instead. Do correct me if i am wrong!
Wow this is a great resource.. I’m enjoying it.. good article
hi ck,i read ur comment regarding the terrace house.So far i know that the biggest sq ft for double storey terrace house is 22 x 80 and the price is above 440K.Am i right?thks for the feedback
You do well to heed the warning signs……….
Agricultural Bank Of China: Halted Loans To Property Developers For 1 Week
http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20100829-704499.html
Singapore Tries to Cool Its Property Market
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703369704575461150660303556.html
Malaysia Maybe?
Property Sector Likely To Be Downgraded If Bank Negara Imposes Lower Mortgage LVR
http://www.bernama.com/bernama/v5/newsbusiness.php?id=524947
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You do well to heed the warnings………
Agricultural Bank Of China: Halted Loans To Property Developers For 1 Week
http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20100829-704499.html
Singapore Tries to Cool Its Property Market
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703369704575461150660303556.html
Malaysia TOO!
Property Sector Likely To Be Downgraded If Bank Negara Imposes Lower Mortgage LVR
http://www.bernama.com/bernama/v5/newsbusiness.php?id=524947
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703369704575461150660303556.html
SINGAPORE—Singapore’s government Monday introduced new curbs against housing market speculation in the city state after prices surged to record highs, stoking fears of a bubble.
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A private condominium under construction in Singapore Monday.
It is the third set of major measures the government has taken in 12 months to cool the property market. The government has also flagged the possibility of more curbs to come if demand refuses to yield.
“If the current momentum in the market continues, what will likely happen is a bubble will form,” Singapore’s National Development Minister Mah Bow Tan told a news conference Monday.
“When the bubble bursts, not if (it bursts), there will be severe implications for individuals as well as for the economy as a whole.”
The moves come a little more than a week after Hong Kong and Chinese authorities announced new initiatives to cool their property markets.
The government will introduce three new measures to “temper sentiments” in the private property market and “encourage greater financial prudence among property purchasers.”
These include increasing the holding period for the imposition of the sellers’ stamp duty introduced earlier this year to three years from one year.
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Singapore Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong
Property buyers with outstanding loans on one or more properties must pay a bigger portion in cash—at least 10% of the value, up from 5%—and borrow only up to 70% for the purchase, down from 80%.
The measures take effect immediately and the government said it will take further action if required.
Separately, the government will increase supply in the public housing sector with plans to offer up to 22,000 new flats and release more sites for tender next year if demand remains strong.
Earlier this year, the Singapore government introduced a sellers’ stamp duty, raised the minimum down payment required for home financing and ramped up its scheduled release of land for the second half of the year to cool the housing market. But property prices continued to climb despite those steps.
“While the rate of price increase of private residential properties has moderated in the last three quarters, prices have still increased significantly by 11% in the first half of 2010, and price levels have now exceeded the historical peak in the second quarter of 1996,” the government said.
The government says it expects Singapore’s economic growth to moderate in the second half of the year and that uncertainties hang over the global economy. Singapore’s economy grew a blistering 24.0% in the second quarter from the first quarter and 18.8% from a year earlier.
Similarly, the global low interest rate environment will not “continue indefinitely” and that “higher interest rates could have severe implications for buyers who have overextended themselves.”
Earlier this year, the government boosted its scheduled private land release program for the second half to a record amount. It now says it may inject an even larger supply in the first half of 2011 if demand remains strong.
However, Mr. Mah said the government is “very reluctant” to impose a capital gains tax—a tax on profits made from selling private property—as it did just prior to Singapore’s 1996 housing market crash.
Barclays Capital economist Waiho Leong said new possible measures that could be introduced include a further reduction in loan-to-value ratios, further increases in stamp duty rates and more stringent exam requirements for property agents to acquire their licenses—some fear the sheer number of agents could contribute to speculative activity.
The current moves took investors by surprise. Many had expected an end to property cooling measures after some moderation in house price increases in the second quarter.
“Similar to past tightening measures, this could result in buyers taking a wait-and-see approach which would be negative for sentiment and moderate transaction volumes in the near term,” Deutsche Bank said.
Singapore’s largest property developer stocks fell on the news. City Developments Ltd., which has a major exposure to the Singapore residential market, fell 4.2% and CapitaLand Ltd. was down 1.8% at the market’s close.
Write to Sam Holmes at samuel.holmes@dowjones
http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20100829-704499.html
Agricultural Bank Of China: Halted Loans To Property Developers For 1 Week
HONG KONG (Dow Jones)–Agricultural Bank of China Ltd. (1288.HK), which raised a record US$22.1 billion in an initial public offering last month, said Monday it halted loans to property developers for one week on Tuesday to slow the rapid growth in property development lending, though it said it has no intention of permanently suspending such loans.
The bank, China’s third largest by assets, said the decision to halt property lending was based on its own needs, and it plans to resume such lending from Sept. 1.
AgBank said Friday its first-half net profit rose 40% to CNY45.84 billion from CNY32.71 billion a year earlier, driven by robust growth in its rural financial business.
The bank said Monday its first-half net profit accounted for 55.3% of its forecast 2010 net profit, though it didn’t say what the forecast was.
It added it would likely surpass its full-year target this year, given strong growth in its rural businesses, which had a net interest margin of 4.26% in the first half, compared with 3.88% for the bank as a whole.
AgBank said it expects its net interest margin to remain stable in the second half, and may even rise from the first-half levels.
-By Chester Yung and Victoria Ruan, Dow Jones Newswires; 852-2802-7002; chester.yung@dowjones.com
http://www.bernama.com/bernama/v5/newsbusiness.php?id=524947
Property Sector Likely To Be Downgraded If Bank Negara Imposes Lower Mortgage LVR
KUALA LUMPUR, Aug 30 (Bernama) — The property sector is likely to be downgraded if Bank Negara Malaysia imposes a lower mortgage Loan-to-Value (LVR) ratio, says Kenanga Research.
Bank Negara is reported to have written to financial institutions to secure feedback on the possibility of capping the LVR for mortgages at 80 per cent to avert the risk of a potential property bubble.
Currently, banks can usually lend up to 90 per cent of the house value, or up to 100 per cent in selected cases, which has been handy for developers promoting their newly launched under interest absorption schemes like 10/90 home loan schemes.
Kenanga Research in a research note today said it would not be surprised if Bank Negara implements the 80 per cent cap on the mortgage LVR, or at least for properties more than RM500,000, as the government is clamping down on investment related property acquisitions.
“If implemented, we are likely to downgrade our sector call, as we expect property transactions to fall since deposit requirements will double, or essentially doubling the investment risk, limiting the number of homes that an individual can buy.
“We expect buyers to become more discerning when it comes to property choices, meaning stronger market leaders with branding and quality will be winners, when it comes to grabbing the market share of a smaller pie,” Kenanga Research explained.
It is also maintaining a “trading buy” call on the property sector for now.
Kenanga Research said currently, the “buy call” is largely premised on strong sales achieved for developers, who are well positioned with several projects or aggressive landbanking.
“We look to review our sector and company calls in the next couple of weeks, pending further light on the matter,” it added.
Meanwhile, OSK Research said it is unlikely that Bank Negara will enforce a strict capping of the LVR at 80 per cent across all residential property classes, but rather impose a restriction only on higher end properties.
“We understand however, most banks would have an internal risk control policy limiting the LVR to 85 per cent for higher end residential properties of more than RM700,000,” it said.
Residential properties currently contribute to 26.6 per cent and 49.8 per cent of total industry loans and household loans respectively.
“Any excessive credit restrictions by Bank Negara on residential properties could be counter-productive, as it would encourage banks to redirect more of the liquidity to higher risk unsecured personal and credit card loans or lumpy corporate loans,” OSK Research said.
– BERNAMA
Its one thing to share, its another to force your opinion through.
Me, personally would like to see more ways to make money rather hear the doom and gloom all the time. As history proven, properties will ALWAYS rise in prices over the long term. Good time people buy properties, bad times buy more properties (cause fear and panic, economic issue will force a lot of people to sell at very attractive prices).
That is what separates the rich and the poor, their ability to adapt and adopt change.
HI,
The rules never change…The Rich always have money in pocket, whereas the poor only have money when the economy is good. Happy Investing.
You cannot Grow Land..CK Wong & MY DAD
hopefully Malaysia will not rush into taking the similar tough measures, althought some kind of minor measures may be welcomed to slow down a bit of the asset bubbles.
HI,
I think its too early for Msia to implement control over the lending. Our market is too young for all this control. Happy Investing.
You cannot Grow Land..CK Wong & MY DAD
Apologies for the multiple posts.
Never say never especially when it becomes TOO speculative….
Hi,
Buying with calculated risk and reasonable price is not speculative. Happy Investing.
You cannot Grow Land..CK Wong & MY DAD
Whats your definition of ‘reasonable price’?
Thanks
Hi,
Good question…it within your own financial ability…Happy Investing
You cannot Grow Land..CK Wong & MY DAD
Does that mean even though the property is ‘worth’ 400k, paying 500k for it just cause i can afford it is ‘reasonable’?
JCK, if you are trying to win your argument here i dont see the point. This is property investing website, if you don’t agree with the philosophy of “buy and wait” or you think the prices is too high – then don’t buy.
You entitled to your opinion but please don’t force it on others, especially this is a PROPERTY INVESTING website.
Hi Ryuken
No one is forcing you to read anything….
Its always good to look at the other side of the coin…..
JCK,
I read this blog with much interest but seldom respond but I have to said this to you. Just as Ryuken said you are entitled to your opinion but don’t force it on others as you may not be right. Even if you are right, there are many ways to achieve the same thing.
It seems you want to take over this blog. You posted multiple entries which take forever to read. We know where to find those news so no need to jammed us with so many entries and if you wish just put it in a nutshell.
I suggest you create your own blog ! and you can argue with all the like minded people.
Personally, I’m okay with JCK inputs. Although his comments might sound negative to some of you, I believe he is sharing the information with good intention, just as what CK is doing.
Hi Kick
Like i wrote to Ryu,
No ones forcing you to read.
Just posting some news on property loans trends….
Good to have a balance news feed no?
Otherwise one can get blinkered
Its good to share views, BUT repeatedly using multiple post to stress the SAME thing over and over that is rather negative i think is not the point of this blog. Its like a mum telling the her son (who have being driving for 10 years), ” You have to stop when you see the red light” at EVERY traffic light. I believe the fellow forumers here have the intelligence to analyze the news.
Totally agree with CK, dwelling on the negative will only waste time and money. Enough said, just look at YTL, how he look for bargains and buy like a madman every time theres a recession.
Mrs. JckLiew (JCK) ,
you have make your point and opinion on the other side of the coin. No need to repeat till at one point you also admit you made multiple postings and even do testing ( ‘ jck September 2, 2010 at 12:43 am
Apologies for the multiple posts.’). That’s why ryuken think you are just like a mum telling her son to stop when the traffic light turn red.
Same thing, CK already explained what he meant by reasonble price and you keep harping at it and asking him further with an example !!!
It’s all relative . Even a good and reasonable deal can be risky to you, but to someone it’s a goldmine.What is reasonable to him may not be reasonable to you. No one forcing you to buy
Till he just stop answering you. Didn’t you realised that ????
Anyway ! Happy mother’s day ( in case you have a mother’s day every month) !
HI,
I cannot give 100% profitable answer to all of you. I only can kick start your mind and let you run on your own..Learn and learn..The rules never chance. I assume all of us has the wisdom to make profitable investment especially booming property market like KK. Happy Investing.
You cannot Grow Land..CK Wong & MY DAD
Mrs JackAss
You are beginning to sound like one…
i apologise for the multiple posting cos there was a computer problem on my side.
Yes everything is relative…..there are many newbies here as well.
Respect them….they may not understand what CK is saying here
“HI,
Do more research on the subject property. Your entry prices will be your main concern. Never buy above market value as this will reflected into your high monthly repayment. Happy Investing.
You cannot Grow Land..CK Wong & MY DAD”
and
“Hi,
Buying with calculated risk and reasonable price is not speculative. Happy Investing.
You cannot Grow Land..CK Wong & MY DAD
”
So there are quite a lot of variances when it comes to prices, no?
AND respect yer mum. Without whom you wont be here…
HI,
The rich profit during reccession and they even make more during booming economy. The middle and lower or “those” who try not to understand it will continue to blame the government and economy. So I have no comment anymore on this. Waste of my time. Happy Investing.
You cannot Grow Land..CK Wong & MY DAD
That’s why I suggest he create his own blog since he got so much to share.
Personally I do not mind JCK’s sharing too. Perhaps sometimes he sounds rather cynical, otherwise it is good to listen to different opinions. As CK said himself before, we should always keep our minds open so that we can all learn…
cheers
Good to share and have different opinions. Helps us balance our views and perception.
Understand why Bank Negara is worried…….
http://themalaysianinsider.com/business/article/is-the-property-market-bubbling-over/
With reference to JCK statement “Does that mean even though the property is ‘worth’ 400k, paying 500k for it just cause i can afford it is ‘reasonable’?”
Yes, because by the time it reaches RM500k, the owner would have disagreed to sell to you. So, buy it if the owner wishes to let go such property to you now ,especially if the property is in prime area and very limited like KK city shoplot or Taipan Inanam frontal shoplots…for example. I would said it is worth every penny when an owner wants to sell you at RM1m although the market value is only RM900k coz if the owner sells,he loses the property forever and the buyer wil gain as he is replacing him to own a property at a prime area.So, nobody will sell their precious property unless the owners need the money for their emergency use.
HI,
My dad ever said this…once you sold your property, your appreciation stop!! Any future potential of th property will be own by next purchaser. That why My Rich Dad never sold any pieces of his properties unless force acquisition by government. So the rules always remain, hold whenever you can hold. Let go if there is a need for further more profitable investment. Happy Investing.
You cannot Grow Land..CK Wong & MY DAD
Ck & Topman,
Just to give 2 examples of paying above valuer’s price.
A friend of mine bought Karamungsing capital ground as subsales unit. Launching price was rm 520,000. First owner asked for rm620k from my friend when the contruction has just began. My friend bought it with everyone saying ‘stupid’ why pay extra Rm100k, as valuer don’t even give that kind of figure. Today he gets a rental of abt 5k per month and recently a broker ask him if he want to sell it for rm 1,100,000.00 as a buyer is interested to buy. Just a short 2.5 years he could have make RM480k profit is he want to sell it
3 years ago my ralative bought a corner unit at peak with a door that open to a roof top that she can uitilised. There’s only 2 such units exist at The Peak ( check this out when you drive by T. Lipat). Owner asked for Rm830,000.00. She quickly wrote a cheque as deposit on the spot and bought it. Valuer valued the property at that time only at Rm 700k. So she paid Rm 130k extra. Today her next of kins are proud onwers of the unit ( as she has passed on) which valued more than 1 million.! people who know about this case, you know who i am talking about.
These are foresights that againts odds. Againts valuer’s price, againts margin that a banker can give you,againts market price and againts advice from friends. They did not pay the extra blindly. Foresights are not something you can read from CNN, The EdgeProperty, Bank Negara reports, bloomberg so on and so forth. It comes with time, with experience, misatakes and success.
I am very thankfull that i associates with people like the above who inspired me to invest. Invest in good and bad times. Our concept is driven by ” There always deal out there to be found’ and not driven by fear !
Azlan
i am NOT waiting for property to reach $500k to BUY!
i am saying that paying too much for a thing which is valued lower is over paying and Not ‘reasonable’.
i have a property worth 400k. Will you offer me $500k?
i will let it go to you……
hi, CK & guys
Yes, i agree Kk is booming..but seldom you can get a property below market value nowadays..seller always sell above market value (plus future profit) in order to let go…so buyer will faces financial problem, as bank only lend up to current market value decided by valuers who are very cautious at market today. Buyers need to have more cash upfront to get hold of the prime property…
so still cash is the key…especially land investing..bank only do 60-70% of land value. The rich get richer..goes on..
Lets be smart and learn from one another, not kick each other’s ass.
Those who are intetrested
http://www.globalpropertyguide.com/press-relations/Global-house-prices-booming-in-Asia-a-mixed-bag-in-Europe-and-the-US
JCK, we all understand that there are always 2 side to a coin. Sometimes it sounded like u always want to have the last word. May b that is just habitual
Your article was an eye-opener. Wow the property market must be really booming. For many in KL they complain price too high but still buy. Why? And for most small timers like me we are more worried about the price of eggs:- http://www.drpetersnews.com/what-is-inflation-and-how-to-manage-inflation.html
The property bubble is actually hyperinflation and that means prices can go up very high but salaries don’t match or catch up until the money supply runs out.
HI,
We learn faster if you know another side of the story. But if you take things too negative ending up you will waste alot of resources especially time and money. Happy Investing.
You cannot Grow Land..CK Wong & MY DAD
Likewise if you are too positive, you may get burnt.
Its good to know both side of the coin so that one may weigh the circumstances before making a well thought decision.
When thoughts are one sided and blinkered, decisons made are often not the best.