AAP 2 HK Apartment Prices Go Through The Roof

by CKWong

 From The Edge News: September 18, 2009 

 

Most Expensive Apartment in HK

Most Expensive Apartment in HK

Artist’s impression of the Cullinan development in Hong Kong.

 

Sun Hung Kai Properties, the world’s largest developer by market value, has raised the price of two penthouses in Hong Kong by 50 per cent to a record $HK75,000 ($11,075) a square foot as demand surges for luxury apartments. The units will be offered for $HK300 million ($44.3 million) each, said Victor Lui, executive director of the company’s real- estate broker. The apartments each have 372 square metres (4000 square-feet) on three floors, an outdoor garden and a swimming pool.  The number of sales and purchase agreements on Hong Kong homes worth at least $HK10 million ($1.47 million) more than tripled to 500 in August, from a year earlier, according to the Land Registry.

Homes at that price in Asia’s second-most expensive market after Tokyo have appreciated by 30 per cent this year, Centaline Property Agency estimates. These have been driven higher by gains in the Hong Kong and China stock markets and record-low mortgage costs. “The buyers will most probably be the ultra-rich mainland Chinese who like the location,” Margaret Ng, senior director of client development and research at CB Richard Ellis Group Inc. in Hong Kong, said by telephone. The properties, the biggest at the Cullinan development in the Kowloon district, were priced at HK$50,000 ($7,400) a square foot when Sun Hung Kai started selling units at the project in February. The Cullinan has 825 units and at 270 metres will be Hong Kong’s tallest residential building. Cullinan residents will also get access to an exclusive private jet service, provided VistaJet Flight. Hong Kong’s year-long recession ended last quarter, when a rebound in exports to China helped the economy grow 3.3 per cent from the previous three months. Wealthy buyers from mainland China have been “buoyed by gains in the equity market,” Yuwa Hedrick-Wong, an economic adviser for MasterCard, said by email.

“Hong Kong’s high-end property market is closely affected by demand from the affluent of mainland China,” Hedrick-Wong said. Mainland Chinese buyers accounted for between 20 per cent and 30 per cent of the almost 400 units sold at the Cullinan, according to Sun Hung Kai’s Lui. The Shanghai Composite Index rose 51 percent in the last 12 months, making it the world’s best-performing benchmark globally a year after the collapse of Lehman Brothers Holdings sparked a credit crunch. Hong Kong’s Hang Seng Index has gained 17 per cent in the same period and is up 49 per cent this year. The highest price paid for a luxury property in the city in August was HK$212.9 million ($31.4 million) in PCCW’s Bel-Air project in Pokfulam district, Centaline said in a report this week.

Hong Kong’s record price for a luxury home was for a house in Sun Hung Kai’s Severn 8 project on the Peak that sold in the first half of 2008 for almost HK$56,000 ($8275) a square foot. Sun Hung Kai doesn’t anticipate the higher price at Cullinan will turn off prospective purchasers. “We’re in negotiations with interested buyers, some of whom wanted alterations,” Lui said. “They are receptive [to the price increase] considering the luxury sector has outperformed” the property market as a whole in Hong Kong.

 

The fact is..

We are at >90% discounted price

We are at >90% discounted price

Property price at good location will continue to hit new high every year and nobody can stop it. Do you believe me? News above revealed that Hong Kong property hit all time high bringing them to RM38K psf. Yes that is RM38, 000 psf and I think none of Malaysia property ever traded at this price so far. That mean an average unit of 500sf it will easily cost you around RM 20M. Can you afford it? The fact we know, for high-end property in Malaysia mainly located at KLCC area only cost us less than RM3000 psf. This virtually computed into more than 90% discount price over their luxury properties in HK. Will our property commanding that prices in the future? How are we going to purchase if this really happen? How much we need to set aside for monthly installment and initial payment? None of us can answer these questions including myself. I understand that in HK, bank only provide up to 60% financing for property buyers. That means you need to have at least RM 2M-RM 5M cash in hand first to pay for initial cost like down payment, legal fees, furnishing and some renovation. Do you have RM 2M in cash hand now? Don’t say RM 2M, I bet some of you don’t even have RM 20K cash in hand..right?

My dear friend, our money is getting smaller and depreciated in value day by day. I have been repeating this message over and over again hoping all of you will wake up now rather regretted later. Sad to know, majority of us still “TRY NOT TO UNDERSTAND” what message I want to pass on here. Things get worst when I know one of my close relative spends few thousand a year travelling all over the world for leisure and holiday yet not realizing the true beauty of property. For your information, most of the time he will complain to me about the over pricing of hotel overseas especially HK & China which almost the same size of our bathroom. To me it’s already clearly indicating how properties values appreciated in developing country benefiting from the strong economy growth within Asia, but sad to say he never learn until today. He still strongly support bank FD’s & enjoying every trip as pure holiday. Are you doing the same thing? Travel without bringing your brain and treating holiday as “HOLIDAY”? For me, I always treating holiday as eye opener, trying to see other part of the world at different perspective, capitalizing their situation and reflect it into our area for better future decision. This skill is known as “observation’ skills. Remember, the more property you explore and analyze the better your foresight and decision making.  

Trust me…We learn much faster through sharing and observation. My advices to all of you please ensure on whatever thing you do in life it will add value into your wealth. If not you better avoid it simply because you are wasting your own resources especially money and time which is limited. But it’s your own choice, at the end of the day you have to take full responsibility and I have no right on your decision which affect your future.  None of us should make mistake repeatly in their life knowing we are learning and growing every day. Please fully capitalize all current opportunity as you might not have such opportunity anymore. At least when our condominium prices hit RM5000 psf within next the 10 years you have something in hand to celebrate. Otherwise you are “OUT” from the party even before it begin.   Happy Investing.

 

You cannot Grow Land..CK Wong & MY Dad 

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Renk December 25, 2009 at 6:23 pm

I’m a bit of a playful comment (abit drunk tonight hehe) : Our population has increased exponentially since WWI , about 1.6b in 1900, 2.5b in 1950 (thats 56%). then 2000, 6 billion (140% incr), just paint some rough idea…the world land is still the same …there’s only 1 direction the property value will go with such unimaginable expansion of world population…it’s simple deductive logic really…any property market dip i believe would only be momentarily…

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CKWong December 25, 2009 at 9:59 pm

Hi Renk,
You are right. But I just wanna to add up extra point here…Since there is 6B population in the world now, they need land when they are alive as well as when they are dead. We are mainly competing with dead people in utilising the land. So imaging how land value will increase over time. Happy Investing.

You cannot Grow Land..CK Wong & MYDAD

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Renk December 26, 2009 at 3:52 am

Actually I’ve been wanting to ask you these questions. may not be a suitable post to ask them though. I’m unfamiliar with lands.

1- before the big break: those vacant lands you bought – unlike apts- how are they generating income for you (ie farmer rent from u for growing vege?, etc) or u just buy it and just put it there and ‘wait’ which dont really make much economic sense ur capitals r tied down in tonnes. not like lands r easily rented out either.

2- financing: in addition, bank doesnt finance land purchase especially small individual players so hv to come up with cash? especially for salary man, coughing out cash for land is only ‘achievable’ to those ‘creative’ few to buy abit worthy land unless partnership but that’s another risk. land easily cost 40k for very small land…probly without much potential too, etc and the odds of no development is there.

note: srsly, i do get the ideas/concepts that u r trying to deliver (or impress? :) but ive not able to grasp the techniques yet especially dealings in land deals.

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CKWong December 26, 2009 at 8:50 am

Hi,
1. Non of my vacant land is generating income for me…Yes”0″ income. My friend, I bought it to keep for future development and sell if there is huge profit to be realise. But the real beauty of acquiring vacant land is you can get it cheap now. As we grow, land prices getting more and more expensive. Just like my land portfolio, if I bought it at current prices it will cost me easily RM25K-RM50K per acre which I got it for less than RM7K per acre last few years. Land value is increasing over time which reflected my unrealise gain. Its like the longer you keep the bigger your profit margin. For your information, my client who acquired Tuaran Beach land since early 1970s started selling his land recently for millions of profit per acre. He got it for less than RM20K per acres last few decade.
2. No Financing. All cash.. To borrow using vacant land as security should be avoided as the interest cost is too high. This will filter your profit over the years. Unless the land you purchase is generating monthly income otherwise better avoid.

Happy Investing.

You cannot Grow Land.. CK Wong & MY DAD

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Renk December 26, 2009 at 11:54 am

“Just like my land portfolio, if I bought it at current prices it will cost me easily RM25K-RM50K per acre which I got it for less than RM7K per acre last few years”

maybe you can share us ur technique (or too ultimate technique to share? hehe) how u spot a potential land or chart a land that is nearing development? cuz if the price is very cheap, meaning the development is very far if not too far for reasonable men to foresee. imagine at that level, how much education n skill are needed to attain to that level just to able to spot a sweet land deal, at bargain.

and what is the tools to do it? like go to the land n survey office borrow their master plan map and all? or just round the place/area like a resident n look around n assess the potential. or just merely recommend a good book on how-to-spot-a good land would suffice if u’r not an advocate to spoon feeding. somehow i feel an apt is easier to spot the potential than land, myb im just unfamiliar.

since u mentioned u bought it with cash i assume we’re gonna solve the financing ourselves , just the technique side we need a helping hand

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CKWong December 26, 2009 at 12:52 pm

Hi,
I hold very simple principles in buying land that is buy land that located 5-10KM radar from small town like Kudat. As long as the road access and utility available, I will buy and keep…simple right?Sometimes thing can be very simple. Bear in mind, every year our government will allocated billions of dollars to build schools, hospital, bomba, JPJ, road access, bridge and etc..all this projects need vacant land to build..so as long as we own land..the chances is there…right? The best if government build one road access nearby our land..that you virtually hitting a jackpot. That what happen to my land at my home town. Last 5 years when I started acquired these land for less than RM6K per acres, now transacted at RM60K-RM100K after govt starting build a road!!
Nevertheless you still need tools especially “locational MAP” from land office whenever you want to buy land..this will give you overview of all the land nearby. You can purchase whole kudat “location Map” for less than RM100. So whenever deal come, you can just refer to the locational map to determine the land location. Of course another way is to use free tools from GOOGLE known as Google Earth. This is the best tools that I alway use to look for the land that I intend to purchase. At least this tools will give you general view of the land and surrounding development. Hope I make myself clear to you now.
Oh ya..before I forgot..to purchase vacant land at today price is abit tough since the land price never stop increasing. I remember I own one pieces of land measuring 3.8 acres (999yrs of land tenure) for less than RM20K. But today same pieces easily cost you RM10K. That is the extra cost that you need to pay for “WAITING” to buy. Happy Investing.

You cannot Grow Land..CK Wong & MY DAD

You cannot Grow Land..CK Wong & KH Wong

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Hsiung Cai December 26, 2009 at 3:35 pm

Hey! Bros., needless to compare to HK! They r so far away with different standard, history & logistic !
Try to see S’pore….u will find the pricing there r no more cheap !
Every inch of space is “Precious Diamond” but not “Gold” anymore due to scarcity of land!
In fact, the principle is simple…..if u owned land, u secured good future!
“Hsiung Cai”

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CKWong December 26, 2009 at 7:43 pm

HI,
Its a matter of time our country going to enjoy the same growth. Wait and see is definitely not the strategy we should use in wealth accumulation. Happy Investing.

You cannot Grow Land..CK Wong & MY DAD

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Renk December 27, 2009 at 3:19 am

Yea the wait and see strategy reminds me during my college, some pretty girls collegemates, like to wait n see de, until many ships passed them by…years passed by and some r still looking by that time, ppl r choosing them edi not the other way round…like land deal, i think they should just hook on n see what happens next :D lol…if not excited or the right one, at least already got experience edi rite…hehe

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CKWong December 27, 2009 at 11:14 am

HI,
That why we always need to learn from history since the past has proof to us how property perform. I hate people say “If I know…” and please be reminded that the moment you ignore the current opportunity that is beginning of your nightmare. Happy Investing.

You cannot Grow Land..CK Wong & MY DAD

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AZLAN December 27, 2009 at 3:37 pm

Hi CK ,

Last year we had a chance to do a cruise from Vancouver to Alaska thru the famous Inner Passage . It was a wonderfull and enjoyable trip for me and my family. We did Selmon fishing, saw some Moose and a couple of brown bear. (so what ??!!)

It was during this trip that I learned about William H. Seward, United States Secretary of State under Abraham Lincoln and Andrew Johnson. In 1867, he fought for the U.S. purchase of Alaska which he finally negotiated to acquire from Russia .

On March 30, 1867, he completed negotiations for the territory, which involved the purchase of 586,412 square miles (1,518,800 km²) of territory (more than twice the size of Texas) for $7,200,000, or approximately 2 CENTS PER ACRE (equivalent to US$95 million in 2005). The purchase of this frontier land was alternately and fun of by the public as “Seward’s Folly,” “Seward’s Icebox,” and Andrew Johnson’s “polar bear garden.”
Today we all know it has pay back the 2 cents per acre many many times more with Oil and Gas, fishing , fur trade ( in the past) minerals mining( such as gold) tourism and so on . And most important of all, especially during the cold war period it is here that USA positioned it’s Early Warning System from the Russian ICBM attack. It was such an irony that this land was purchase fron Russia itself !

Stories and vision like this kept us all continue to look for opportunity in land not only for ourself but for generations to come. Seaward’s story may not be new to some of us here. Just thought i want to share it here .

Thanks

Azlan

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Norma December 30, 2009 at 7:42 am

Hi CK & Azlan, always nice to see & read your comment azlan, thank you for sharing the information, vacant land is always a great investment…But you need to do a lot of ‘homework’ before jumping in and buy some vacant land. Wow.. CK wong, you are a visionary person ( well…you have the ability to predict well with the correct information, not by opinions only..) :-) . All the best, always… :-)

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CKWong December 30, 2009 at 8:35 pm

Hi,
We learn by sharing. So don’t be stingy with your knowledge as the more you share the more wealth you will get. Happy Investing.

You cannot Grow Land..CK Wong & MY DAD

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Azlan December 30, 2009 at 9:54 am

Hi Norma ,

You most wellcome. Its good to share infor here and this is a good plateform to exchange idea too. Just today I gave away my ‘How to Become a Property Millionaire ‘ book by Azizi Ali to my friend who works in one of the government department.
Couple of days ago he said he can’t just rely on his salary and would want to invest in property for the future and financial planning. I shared with him a few thing and just can’t think of a better gift to give him for the New Year

Knowledge are to be shared to those who seek for it !

Azlan

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CKWong December 30, 2009 at 8:40 pm

Hi,
It was a fruitful years for those who learn and make immediate action. Hope we can learn more from each other and share exciting story when we say hello to 2011. Happy Investing.

You cannot Grow Land..CK Wong & MY DAD

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Azlan December 31, 2009 at 4:22 am

Hi,
Today Daily Express has got a good article on Malaysian property. Check it out. It has a positive oulook for 2010. as Our economy is forecast to grow at 4.3 %. Article said property growth may be deter a bit by gradual increase on bank interest and also the RPGT ( 5 years and below). Anyway overall outlook is good !

Happy new year !

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Norma January 5, 2010 at 8:27 am

HI azlan & CK Wong, Happy New Year 2010 to both of you guys…. :-) . Apart from Azizi Ali book, Azlan you can suggest to your friend to read ‘ how you can become multimillionaire real estate investor from author milan doshi ‘. Good book…it does not cover only property per say, he did a ‘good’ comparison between property investment & other mode of investment, for me, I really enjoy the book.
Best of everything to you guys…
Keep up the good work.

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CKWong January 5, 2010 at 7:48 pm

HI,
Applied knowledge is POWER.. Happy Investing.

You cannot Grow Land..CK Wong & MY DAD

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Azlan January 5, 2010 at 9:07 am

Hi Norma ! Happy new year to you too ! You must have just came back from Holiuday. Yes will do that. I have not read that. But will certainly look for the book !Thanks

Azlan

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Norma January 6, 2010 at 10:19 am

HI CK Wong, I do agree with you… As the saying says ‘ ACTION SPEAKS LOUDER THAN WORDS’, but I do believe in properly educating myself before making bad decisions that will set me back financially, maybe in years to recover it back… So I must be right, first time & everytime. CK , I know you have a ‘ winning formula’ :-) . I am developing it too, doing my own pace currently…. ;-) . …. ongoing learning process….. ACTION , FIRST STEP DONE.. :-)
Azlan, no problem !

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CKWong January 6, 2010 at 8:09 pm

Hi,
Bro “the fast is eating the slow”. Act faster..alot of people I met always telling me that they will buy properties once they have money..but bear in mind property prices will never wait for you. They are rising day by day. So thing need to be learn fast and sharp..Happy Investing.

You cannot Grow Land..CK Wong & MY DAD

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tan January 7, 2010 at 1:09 am

I love azizi ali and milan doshi books and I bought and read all their contents last few years. But i do disagree with their suggestion, that we should go for max loan for max years like loan 90% for 30 years for all the properties that you buy. Imagine ,you only need to deposit 10% for 10 properties and all the 10 properties are 90% bank loan or using OPM (other people money) ….hoping for the rental to cover your bank loan…easier said than done!!! Can you imagine what will happen if the financial tsunami occur within the 30 years of your loan period? As we have seen ,those financial crisis tend to recycle every 10 years and you will “die standing” if your rental stuck in some of your properties and it will snowball to crush your cashflow”empire”. That is the reason why , I never apply for “full loan” to buy properties …I prefer to invest and hold in blue chip counter in bursar and after hitting my 20% profit , i will exchange it with a property ,thus avoiding the 90% bank loan….

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CKWong January 7, 2010 at 8:07 am

Hi,
That why I always recommend my business associate to create a reccession proof portfolio to make sure everything still in order even economy crisis come. Your portfolio should consist of rental property, land, Stock, and some cash in hand plus some facility given by bank in the even you really run out of cash. I also never believe in “FULL LOAN + FULL LEVERAGE”. Happy Investing.

You cannot Grow Land..CK Wong & MY DAD

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Azlan January 9, 2010 at 5:35 am

Hi

yup agreed ! if you have a a reccession proof portfolio. You are being sheltered. However you can still go for ‘max loan ,max loan period’ for a period of time. example if you have 5 properties of ‘max loan and max loan period’ . One or more double it,s price in years to come time or even making 1 or 2 hundred thousand for you. You can actually sell off the unit that make you lots of money and take the gain to reduced the loan of the others . This will reduce your gearing and help you to weather any cyclical financial tsunami that you may face over the decade. There’s many ways to achief the same thing but one would go for the avenue that we are most confortable with , of course.

Cheers

Azlan

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Norma January 9, 2010 at 1:47 pm

Wow, thank you guys for the input . :-) . Well said… Good discussion, always… Already take that into account…. Happy investing!! :-)

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