Information on Land Title

by CKWong

1. Type of title

This is to determine whether you eligible to buy or not. In Sabah, land title divided into 2 types that are non-native & native titles.

Non Native – It’s known as Country Lease (CL) which can be purchase by anyone around the world as long as they have the money and approval from local authority. You will be surprise to know that a lot of beach front land along Tuaran to Kudat has change ownership for the past few years mostly to outsider like Sarawakian, Singaporean, Korean and British.

Native Title – Native land only can be own by Sabahan Native or for those who have the legal Anak Negeri certificate. But of course you still can buy NT title even if you are not Native Sabahan. How? Ask lawyer on how to do it. I don’t really love doing it as there is some risk element that can’t be avoid.

2. Location

Land office has divided every area in Sabah into different code. You can differentiate it by reading the first 3 digit from the title number. Example:

CL 015 888 888 – Kota Kinabalu

CL 055 888 888– Kudat

Beside the code, the titles also mention the District of the land and the kampung name. It will be good if you double check the title at the land office and search for big map to find the actual location. So watch out carefully before you make any commitment as different code will cost you different pricing.

3. Land Tenure

The country lease land Tenure is ranging from 99 years to 999 years. Only certain location like Kelombong Industrial area granted 60 years of land tenure. Most of the owners are extending the land tenure by paying premium to land office as Bank dislike short land tenure. For those who love buying land to keep, try accumulating more 999 years land title as it’s worth more in the future. While Native Sabahan should be very grateful as the land tenure is held in perpetuity. Not only that, they are also exempted from stamp duty for any property transacted. Instead of buying more, they keep selling. Sometimes I also don’t understand why. If such opportunity given to me, I will even sell my personal belongings to buy more land.

4. Encumbrance of the title

The last pages of the title will be the most crucial as its show whether the title is clean or not. Most the town area land is charge to the bank as it’s a good form of security compare to outside town land like Keningau or Tenom which is clean and free from any encumbrances. But whatever it is, please get another latest land search copy from local land office to confirm the status of the land.

All the above is the most basic information I learn when I purchase my first property. Of course by knowing the information above is not enough to find a good deal but it’s good general knowledge for beginner who intend to add property into their wealth portfolio.

Happy Investing

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yong July 24, 2009 at 3:17 pm

CKWong, I am about to buy a piece of land for investment in KK.
1. The land is CL that expires in 2080. Is it worth it?
2. We are planning to build several houses on that small 6500 sft residential plot.. all for rental purpose. Is it worth it? Our estimate ROI would be between 13-15%. Like to hear your comments.

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CKWong July 24, 2009 at 10:41 pm

Yong,
Friend, 2080 is still long way to go..so why worry? 6500 sf can build several house? Or you are building non-landed? Of course KK’s all the while enjoying good rental yield and you can get 13-15% but it’s all depend on your location, condition and furnishing. Happy Investing.

Ck Wong

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Jonathan July 29, 2009 at 6:21 am

Hi CK,
I’m going to sell a piece of NT land near Dongonggon town. Do I need to pay tax? The land are inherited from the my father.

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CKWong July 29, 2009 at 8:32 am

Jonathan,
No. Since last year all Real Property Gain Tax (RPGT) is free untill further notice. Further you are inheritance your land. Happy Investing.

Ck Wong & KH Wong

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Jonathan July 29, 2009 at 11:14 am

Hi CK,

It is great not to have to pay tax now but do I still need to declare the money in my income tax form?

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CKWong July 29, 2009 at 11:48 am

Jonathan,
Tax need to be pay. You can reported whatever amount you want in the income tax form if you are selfemployed. This will help you also to get financing also in the future in the event you want to borrow money for further leveraging. Happy Investing.

Ck Wong & KH Wong

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Azlan July 31, 2009 at 3:18 am

Hi Jonathan,

If I may just share something here. For NT land even if before the “free RPGT” you need not have to pay tax but you just need to do the filing which is for fomality. But after the ‘free RPGT’ which is since last year you need not even have to do the filing. This is a goody for the Sabahan Bumi lah !
Azlan

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yong August 2, 2009 at 11:57 pm

I have this land CL, subdivided residential lot that allows to build 1 house. Would a row of terrace ( rumah panjang style) be consider one house?
Would it be better to build on a CL land or an NT land?
What are the restrictions?

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CKWong August 3, 2009 at 1:02 am

Morning,
I think you better ask the approval authority for your problem. I have no experience in property development yet. Only when everything is in order I will join the property development games. :) Happy Investing.

You cannot Grow Land.. Ck Wong & KH Wong

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Clement Chew August 3, 2009 at 8:44 am

Helo CK,

Good day. I’m from Sibu; I’m extremely impressed with your achievement so far. I’m an avid equity investor, doing quite well now. However, your insight into property investment has been a huge inspiration for me!
A few questions:

1. I’m interested in accumulating vacant land. Any recommendation on which areas in KK (potentially up and coming in next 10/20 years)?

2. About investing in condo/shop lots in KK, which area/resources will you suggest for a new investor like me to search?

Thanks a lot for sharing.

Clement Chew

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CKWong August 3, 2009 at 11:01 am

Clement,
Happy to know Sarawak people joining the club, I’m from Sarikei currently working as KK Sabah. :) Thank you for your compliment. Anyway life is full of sharing so that we can learn faster and make less financial mistake as we can’t afford to take risk on our limited resources (money). To accumulate land, you don’t need to come to Kota Kinabalu. Try accumulate at your own area like Mukah, Tg Manis and Sarikei, as I foresee tremendous growth opportunity at that few area which will benefited the most when SCORE is at full swing. And Clement, continue explore my blog for idea to invest at KK. Happy Investing.

You cannot Grow Land.. Ck Wong & KH Wong

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Clement Chew August 3, 2009 at 1:07 pm

Hi CK,

My personal thought: KK is growing much faster than most areas in Sarawak at the moment. And there are still plenty of opportunities for acquisitions.
So, I will definitely be visiting your blog on a frequent basis!

Mind sharing which industry you are currently working in?

Cheers.

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CKWong August 3, 2009 at 4:12 pm

Clement,
Sabah and Sarawak will definitely doing well next few years. KK will be good for rental collection property if you interested to invest in. I’m in Banking line. What about yourself? Happy Investing.

You cannot Grow Land.. Ck Wong & KH Wong

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Clement Chew August 4, 2009 at 4:38 am

Hi CK,

I’m in Oil & Gas industry; working in Middle East now. And, it is a major obstacle to keep track of property investments in Malaysia, particularly East M’sia.

I’m looking forward to more information from you in this blog (:

Cheers.

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CKWong August 4, 2009 at 6:41 am

Clement,
How old are you? Happy to know you start thinking of your own future.. Keep it up.. Happy Investing.

You cannot Grow Land.. Ck Wong & KH Wong

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Clement Chew August 4, 2009 at 7:44 am

Hi CK,

27 this year; a bit late to start on property investment ):
I’m not familiar at all with this investment vehicle, but it is so crucial.

Will be pleased to hear from you on few recommended areas/neighbourhood to start looking into :p

Cheers.

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CKWong August 4, 2009 at 7:51 am

Clement,
Its never too late to start. Happy Investing.

You cannot Grow Land.. Ck Wong & KH Wong

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Tan October 8, 2009 at 4:19 am

Hi Mr Wong,
Someone offer me a piece of roadside NT land 5acre for RM5M in Dongungan old road to paper, is it worth invest?

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CKWong October 8, 2009 at 6:33 am

Hi,
How far away from Dongongong Town?What is the status of the land either residential?Agriculture or what? But RM 1 Million per acres work out to be around RM23 per sf is quite expensive. Happy Investing.

You cannot Grow Land..CK Wong & KH Wong

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weng October 9, 2009 at 2:40 pm

hi landlord..im from west malaysia but im stayiing in KK.im really interested in buying 1 land 5 acres, but it’s NT..how to buy it because the current owner needs money and wanted to sell it to me..TQ in advance

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CKWong October 9, 2009 at 8:43 pm

Hi,
You can only own the NT virtually under your name using legal documents. Its very risky. You will loss everything if suddenly the sibling of the owner come back and claim next time. Too much hassle. Unless you buy now and quickly develop it and done conversion within the next 2 years. Otherwise “avoid”. Happy Investing.

You cannot Grow Land..CK Wong & KH Wong

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weng October 10, 2009 at 4:28 am

tq for your advise.what did you mean of ‘quickly develop’? we have to build up house or make something that acknowledge our name? then, after could we change the land’s status?

Tq

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CKWong October 10, 2009 at 5:18 am

hi Weng,
As long as your land convert into development land especially housing, your land status will be converted into CL land. Then you will be save but you need to pay premium for the conversion. Its not going to be cheap. Happy Investing.

You cannot Grow Land..CK Wong & KH Wong

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Don November 5, 2009 at 10:35 am

I was wondering if there is a way that NT can be converted to CL land?
Thank you.

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CKWong November 5, 2009 at 11:40 am

HI,
Sure you have. Prefer you to get propert advise from lawyer. Happy Investing.

You cannoy Grow Land.. CK Wong & KH Wong

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Don November 5, 2009 at 10:42 am

Dear CK

Unfortunately, I did not read all the comments before I asked my
question whether there is a way to convert NT land to CL. I am
a Westerner who would like to build a house outside of KK and
have seen some beautiful pieces of land all of which are NT. How
much does it cost to convert to build a house? Thank you.

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CKWong November 5, 2009 at 11:42 am

Hi,
Conversion of land for development depending on Land office, they have the scale fees to follow. So you might as well ask you lawyer to get all thing done for you. But bear in mind, this will cost you alot of your money and time. Happy Investing.

You cannot Grow Land.. CK Wong & KH Wong

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Don November 20, 2009 at 1:59 am

Dear CK,

Thank you for your clarification and thank you
for your informative website.

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yukisyi November 15, 2009 at 9:09 am

Dear CK,
I would like to ask question…
If i had sell mine land CL, the cost of the land is not the same as the purchase price and i have received a gain on disposal on plant, property and equipment (known as an income). Do i still need to pay tax and futhermore do i require pay dividend?
Thank you

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CKWong November 15, 2009 at 10:05 am

Hi,
As long as your selling price is more than your acquire cost, you will need to pay tax. But for your dividend its all depend on your taxable income level. If your total annual taxable income is less than RM35K then you are not taxable under Malaysia Law. Happy Investing.

You cannot Grow Land.. CK Wong & KH Wong

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Azlan November 16, 2009 at 4:01 pm

Hi Don,

For conversion of NT to CL , you need to get a development plan done by an Engineer or Architect and submit to the town planning of the district which in turn forward to the Central Board for final approval. Once it’s approved then only the title be sent to Land office for conversion and premium charged for the conversion of land use and CL status . If your NT land located in a developed area , then only the premium can be expensive. But if it is in a rural area or under developed district it may not be much. .

Azlan

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Don November 20, 2009 at 1:57 am

Azlan yth.

Terima kasih banyak untuk menjelaskan pertanyaan
saya tentang NT/CL tanah. Currently, I live in a kampong
in C. Jawa and I hope to be able to affordably do the same
in Kota Kinabalu. Your comment was very helpful.

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Azlan November 20, 2009 at 2:25 am

Don ,

Where about do you live in central java. What sort of development you want to do here? for Own use or for rental?

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Don November 21, 2009 at 9:02 am

I live in Central Java. The land is for my own use
to build a house w/garden in a quiet, green
neighborhood. A kampung setting like I enjoy in
Jawa.

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CKWong November 21, 2009 at 9:44 am

Hi Don,
Life at Kampung is perfect. I love Kampung living especially whne the air is fresh, greeny environment, low living expenses and etc. I always recommend my retired friend to move from city to smaller kampung to substain their living expenses pressure. Happy Investing.

You cannot Grow Land.. CK Wong & KH Wong

Dave January 4, 2010 at 5:08 pm

What other problems should I concern about regarding buying a NT land? and, if I am a Sino Kadazan, does the same problems apply?
Thank you and hope to hear from you soon.

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CKWong January 4, 2010 at 8:47 pm

HI,
NT land is special for Native people of Sabah. If you are Sino-Kadazan I presume you might have loss 75% of your right. Recently Sabah government has impose more regulations for people to own NT land. So it will be good you get “qualified” lawyer to advise you on this matter. Happy Investing.

You cannot Grow Land..CK Wong & MY DAD

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Azlan January 5, 2010 at 9:31 am

Hi Dave,

Dealing with NT land is actually very interesting. If you are a sino kadazan. You will not lost your birth right. It is also your constitutional right. If you dad is a kadazan and your mum a chinese , more often than not it will state there in your birth cert as kadazan. But if your dad is a chinese your mum is kadazan and it stated there you as chinese. There where the problem begins. And the government have freezed the issuant of native cert in early 1980ties thru the native court.

And today a person who has the native cert and with Chinese surname will have to produce his birth cert to show one of his or her parents a native before they can allow the Transfer of the NT land.

If a person native parent ( mother) has passed away nand doesn’t have a native cert, you may go to the jabatan Hal Elwah Anak Negeri to get their certification you as a native of Sabah and reserve you contituitional right to own or purchase native land.

Azlan

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Lawrence February 11, 2010 at 4:09 am

Land in Sabah with a NT title…… will a Sarawakian be able to purchase it without any problems…..?

Thank you

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CKWong February 18, 2010 at 7:02 am

Hi,
You can own NT land in sabah. Refer to the lawyer as they will try to “legalise” it for you. Of course there is no 100% secure. There is some risk involves. Happy Investing.

You cannot Grow Land..CK Wong & MY DAD

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Azlan February 18, 2010 at 1:36 am

When the British came and colonized the region namely Malaya, sabah and sarawak, The colonial master has mind of giving land to own by ‘Native’ group such as the Malay Reserve in west malaysia, NT in Sabah and Customary Land in Sarawak. Whereas the chinese, Indian and others are given CL( 99,999 and freehold). This to keep the balance healthy.
Each of these 3 geographical area have different land law that retrict land ownership to safeguard the native and state interest. For example other malaysian can’t even buy land in sarawak not even CL. They can only own it thru a company despite Sarawak has the largest land mass.

To cut the long story short, why want to buy NT in sabah? Whereas there’s so much CR land in sarawak to buy ( in whatever way to own it) if all the CL land are no longer available.

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Benjamin February 25, 2010 at 5:43 am

hai there CK Wong,

I need your advise , as i am thinking of buying a land of 50 arce in keningau- tenom which cost me RM25,000.00 with oil palm for 40 arce only is it a reasonable price …

tq

ben

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CKWong February 25, 2010 at 7:39 am

Hi,
Im not familiar with the oil palm land at Tenom. But please consider:

1. Distance to oil mill
2. Flat land or hill land
3. Current productions and maintainance
4. CL or NT title
5. Avaibility of workers
6. Distance from town
7. Facility – Water & electric
8. Etc

Happy Investing

You cannot Grow Land..CK Wong & MY DAD

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Dave March 6, 2010 at 5:09 am

Hi all,

Do I need a licence to develop my own NT land? and, what other process do I need to do/apply?

Thanks all..I am new to property in here, your answer is truly apreciated

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CKWong March 6, 2010 at 5:42 am

HI,
I think its good for you to get lawyer advise on the details of NT matters. I dont think I’m in the real position to advise you accurately. Happy Investing.

You cannot Grow Land..CK Wong & MY DAD

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Gwen March 6, 2010 at 7:51 am

Hi Dave,

A book name: ”An Introduction to Sabah Land Law & Conveyancing” by James Lam Chee Seng, he is a experience Lawyer that very familiar with Sabah Land Law, currently attached to Lam Teo Sebom & Tan Solicitors & Advocates at Kota Kinabalu. This is a very good book for those who wants to know about the legal procedure on how to convert NT into CL, find out more inside the book, but bear in mind it will more touch on Law, if got terms & content u don’t understand in the book, u can search his name on Google then his contact number & address will appear.

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CKWong March 6, 2010 at 9:08 am

Hi,
Its good to have this book. But I still prefer to ask from lawyer directly. More updated information and accurate. Furthermore not many people can understand jargon that lawyer use in that books. Happy Investing.

You cannot Grow Land..CK Wong & MY DAD

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Dave March 6, 2010 at 10:05 am

Thanks for the info and I am going to buy the book for my own reference.

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robert March 15, 2010 at 12:10 pm

Hi, CKwong, i just wanna ask you that where to buy a good bargain(bangalow lands) as i always view the adversitisement od selling houses and land on internet and on newspapers which are unworthy to me. Could you please give me some opinions ?

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CKWong March 17, 2010 at 11:27 am

Hi,
Purchasing vacant land need larger initial capital ie:
1. Bank will borrow less says 70% margin of finance
2. Higher interest rate
3. Short loan tenure
4. Appreciation will be eaten up by your interest costing which is too high. Unless you buy cash.

Happy Investing.

You cannot Grow Land..CK Wong & MY DAD

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S.Kumar March 25, 2010 at 4:49 pm

Dear Sir,

I am from Peninsula malaysia and would soon be investing in a 40 acres plot of Palm Oil Plantation land (already 3-4years old).

Question:

1. How do I go about in ensuring that the investment is safe and sound?
2. Can I obtain land title copies via internet?
3. Any good lawyers whom I can interact via internet to discuss the land purchase?
4. Besides CL type land, are there any other type which gives buyer permanent owneship?

Please let me have your sincere comments and feedback.

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CKWong March 26, 2010 at 12:33 am

Hi,
At first, you should get a land search at our KK land office. There is no land search via internet yet in Sabah. Please give me your email address for me to give you the lawyer to look for. Beside CL, another land is Native Title which only can be own by bumiputra from Sabah. Happy Investing.

You cannot Grow Land..CK Wong & MY DAD

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rexis April 5, 2010 at 9:01 am

Hi CKWong, let’s say my father have a Anak Negeri certificate and I buy a NT land under his name, will there be any problem transferring the ownership to me(borned in Sabah, but no Anak Negeri cert) in future?

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CKWong April 5, 2010 at 11:09 am

Hi,
Do you have the NT cert? If you dont have, then too bad you can’t own the land if something happen to your dad. If you have NT cert now, i advice better you directly purchase under your own name. Happy Investing.

You cannot Grow Land..CK Wong & MY DAD

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Ramesh Raj April 12, 2010 at 7:35 am

Good day, i found a piece of land around 20KM from papar. What a beauty! Its still native tittle. Is it a long dragging process to get changed to CL for 999 years or would it be brief with cash in hand? I do understand it will take time, but as we Malaysian know, time factor can either make or break. Land is for personal use..building my weekend house if i can purchase it.

Another thing, since im not native but born in Sabah. Can i still purchase the land first then go thru the hassle of changing it or should i change the tittle then buy the plot?

Kindly advise.

rgds,
Raj

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CKWong April 12, 2010 at 11:30 am

HI,
There is no 100% way of you own NT title in Sabah. Unless your wife is NT holder. Otherwise there will be some risk involve even you have done your legalise part. So its part of the risk you need to take. Get proper advise especially established lawyer to reduce your risk of owning NT title. Happy Investing.

You cannot Grow Land..CK Wong & MY DAD

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Azlan April 12, 2010 at 10:21 pm

Hi Ramesh,

Say you buy the NT land with proxy which is possible if you are not a native, There’s no way you be able to convert it to CL 999. For CL99 yes ,but may take a some time.

Azlan

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Ramesh Raj April 13, 2010 at 7:23 am

Thanks guys…reply noted…It seems i got to find an alternative for my dream weekend house elsewhere.

rgds,
Raj

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Norm May 8, 2010 at 7:56 am

Im going to buy a lot of land near a west coast beach for RM30,000 from an applicant where the whole piece of land is still in the process of application from the applicant. This will be a NT if succeeded. Im with a Native certificate. what should I look or check into. Or it is worth a try. Tq

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CKWong May 9, 2010 at 8:46 pm

HI,
Buying under LA is very risky. As the land might not apply by you alone. There might be plenty of people applying the same peices. Happy Investing.

You cannot Grow Land..CK Wong & MY DAD

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Brian May 15, 2010 at 8:00 pm

Hi CK,

I’ve learned a lot just from your comments on this page. Thanks for this resource!

I’m an American and I would love to build a little, traditional house on 2-3 acres of jungle in rural Sarawak. I don’t want to buy the land because I don’t have a lot of money and I will probably only have a tourist visa or an employment pass. So I am interested in simply renting the land from the owner but I read that, “Leasing of property for a term of 10 years and above by foreign interest requires the approval of FIC.” (http://www.eurasialegalnetwork.com/library/pdfs/Investing_Properties_Msia.pdf) Is renting the land the same as leasing it? Have you ever heard of a foreigner leasing land for just under 10 years with the “option to renew” the lease (to avoid needing FIC approval)?

Thanks :)

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CKWong May 16, 2010 at 7:43 am

Hi,
Why you wanna lease the land if you can owned the land? Happy Investing.

You cannot Grow Land..CK Wong & MY DAD

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Brian May 16, 2010 at 10:44 pm

Hi CK,

My reasons for leasing vs owning are 1) flexibility and 2) lower up-front costs. For flexibility, (I think) I could lease either CL or NT land. For lower up-front costs, the 500,000RM minimum purchase price for foreigners wouldn’t apply so I could find a small, cheap property. By leasing I also wouldn’t need much money to get started.

I would love to sign a 5 year lease with the option to renew the lease at increments of 5 years for up to 80 years. Do you think a contract like this between me and the land owner would need approval from any government agencies? Would it be different for NT vs CL land?

Thanks, CK!

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CKWong May 17, 2010 at 8:15 am

Hi,
Owning it is 100%…while leasing is 49%…over the long term definetly there will be a risk in leasing. Its not easy for human to keep their promise for so long especially when surrounding development is getting more. If you think that up front cost is high then might as well you just “rent” it ie signed long term tenancy with the landowner. I think Sarawak are getting use to rent for RM300 per acres for 25 years for plantation land. So now harm if you follow the same. Happy Investing.

You cannot Grow Land..CK Wong & MY DAD

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Brian May 17, 2010 at 3:15 pm

Thanks for the advice, CK :) Quick clarification: would that be roughly RM300/acre per month or year?

Robert May 19, 2010 at 9:03 am

Hi Ck,

Just to add on to the NT vs CL land status issue. To convert a title from NT to CL is under the jusridiction of the Chief Minister’s Department. Only when you get the CM’s approval, then you can proceed to the Land Office to do the necessary documentation for conversion of land status. This is not the end of the story either..Unless you are a big time developer with an existing development and there is a NT land adjoining your project which is obstructing your development, chances are next to zero for you to convert the land status to CL. Imagine also the “unseen or uncalculated expenses” that need to be incurred which can give you a sleepless nights. At the end of it, your conversion costs might be many more times than if you were to just buy a clean CL land, even though it may seems expensive currently. This goes back to what you have been saying all along – “buy land and wait” instead of taking shortcuts. Cheers & Happy Investing!!

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Telipok Boy May 19, 2010 at 10:40 am

Just to share some of the land matter in Indonesia. General speaking, to lease a land ( Hak Guna or leasehold ) in Indonesia is not a major ‘headache’ issue for a foreigner. Current regulation is max. 50 years, is renewable, The right of ownership ( Hak Milik or freehold ) is only applied to Indonesian. But, there is also a way for a foreigner to indirect own the land with title hak milik.

I have a case lost of house title in KK. I have to wait one year from land office to issue a certified true copy. Why one year?

So, the answer is Indonesian land market is more opened than Sabah.

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CKWong May 19, 2010 at 12:23 pm

Hi,
Thank you for the sharing. Our land office has not reaching MSC status..that why. They are still below the ‘clever” people. Happy Investing.

You cannot Grow Land..CK Wong & MY DAD

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GK May 19, 2010 at 2:38 pm

hi..guys,

“”I have to wait one year from land office to issue a certified true copy. Why one year? “” by Telipok boy

This is the issue with land office kk. The efficiency of land office is very low in turn of processing land title…this issue is a long long pain endured by sabahan expecially the developer and purchaser..

elsewhere, kch land offce work much faster..

P.Opinion only

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TgBatu-Kid May 31, 2010 at 7:00 am

CK,

Well done and good job. Interesting blog compare others.

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Natalie June 7, 2010 at 2:25 am

Hi CKWong

Nowadays owning a property is very luxury to some people. Day by day, there would be decreasing in ownership of property. I might be wrong, its just my assumption. Anyway, i need your opinion about kampung reserve land. for example, i have a lot of kampung reserve land and i want to develop low cost house, probably 2-3 houses. And im going to rent it out to others. Now, my worry:
1. what are the possiblity the government revoking my lot?
2. is there any rules that kampung reserve land is meant for dwelling only?

Thanks

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CKWong June 7, 2010 at 2:50 am

HI,
If it is NT, I think your chances is higher compare to any other race. Furthermore if you dont over built on that land and create any traffic jam problem I dont think government will stop you. Happy Investing.

You cannot Grow Land..CK Wong & MY DAD

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Natalie June 7, 2010 at 3:09 am

Hi

wow. this is supercool. thank you.

my cousin built 10 low cost terrace houses and all rented it out, rm450/monthly. but that, she built on her own land. its 12km away from kk town.

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CKWong June 7, 2010 at 11:34 am

HI,
If I got such opportunity i will go for it. Happy Investing.

You cannot Grow Land..CK Wong & MY DAD

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PROPGUY June 17, 2010 at 3:31 pm

Hello All,

Great info on here. Thanks in advance for any helpful comments.

My brother and I are US citizens living in Asia (China and Sing) and we have several small residential properties around the world. We have visited Sabah several times and it looks very appealing for land purchase. We have no plans to develop in the near (3-5yrs) term but the area is nice and the prices seem very reasonable compared with similar areas in Asia / SE Asia. We are not Malaysian citizens and we would not be in Sabah permanently. Strictly buy and hold.

This would be our first endeavor into land. Any suggestions, comments, warnings?

Thanks!

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CKWong June 17, 2010 at 8:59 pm

HI,
What land you are looking at and which area? Happy Investing.

You cannot Grow Land..CK Wong & MY DAD

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PROPGUY June 17, 2010 at 11:38 pm

Thanks CK. We do not have a specific plot yet. We were thinking about the KK area, but are not too familiar with the other areas of Sabah. Basically doing some due dilligence on the area as a whole, what it is like for foreigners to buy there and what the major pitfalls are. BTW, can anyone recommend a good attorney in the area?

Thanks again!

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Telipok Boy June 18, 2010 at 11:02 am

Here is very simple and useful investment formula, “ Saving + Investing + Start early = Retire early ” Normal people can understand.

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CKWong June 18, 2010 at 11:19 am

HI,
Simple but alot of people “try” not to understand it. Happy Investing.

You cannot Grow Land..CK Wong & MY DAD

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steven June 19, 2010 at 3:41 am

Hi CK Wong and friends,
Over the years,KK has transformed from a medium town to one of the biggest city in malaysia. Now is the perfect time to invest. May this fire of change be your path to financial freedom.

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eric June 19, 2010 at 7:39 pm

Hi Ck.
My parent are sino-kadazan and own a pieace of NT land(rubber trees) near to a town
both my parent have the bumiputra cert but i do not have it..
i just read your comment above say that children without bumiputra cert are not able to hold parents’ NT land.
any solution can solve the problem? do my parents need to sell it soon as possible since it cant transfer to me? or develop it?

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CKWong June 19, 2010 at 9:31 pm

HI,
Are you having fullname in chinese?Or you have kdz name? I’m not sure on this as I neve encounter NT cert parents forgot to help their kids to get NT cert!! You better check it out at land office or your association. Happy Investing.

You cannot Grow Land..CK Wong & MY DAD

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eric June 20, 2010 at 7:27 am

both my parent and i are in chinese full name. i am born at 1988. i think my parent not able to get me the bumiputra cert since government has freezed the issuant of native cert in early 1980ties thru the native court.
so can my parent transfer the land to me?

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Azlan June 20, 2010 at 9:22 am

Hi Eric,

If both your parents or even just one of your parents is a genuine Sino kadazan and have Bumi Cert. You should be able to inherit you parent’s NT land.

You are right gorverment has freezed the issuance of bumi cert since 1981. Therefore all those sino-Kdz especially those with born chinese surname having problem. having said that , it is not the end of the story. Because no one can take away your birth right. It is your constitutional right.
What you need to do is get a statutory declaration done about your parentage to state that you are a Sino thru your parents . Supporting ducuments such as you Grand parents Birth certs( if they still alive) and also your parents birthcerts plus their NT certs would be helpful for your case. And go to the Jabatan Hal Ehwal Anak Negeri ( This is not the Mahkamah Anak negeri, Infact , The native court is under this jabatan ) , Wisma Tun Fuad Stephens to get them to issue a letter to certified that you are a native of sabah and can inherit or buy NT land. It also qualify you to buy ASB. It may take some times but it is possible.

Cheers

Azlan

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eric June 20, 2010 at 9:44 am

thank you for the information provided.
thanks a lot!

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joe June 20, 2010 at 3:21 pm

You cannot buy ASB even if you are a sino kadazan with surat anak negeri. We have tried but failed.
Because ASB is now centralised in KL and federal govt does not recognize sino- kadazans with chinese surname as bumiputras.

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Azlan June 20, 2010 at 3:59 pm

I didn’t said using Surat Anak Negeri to buy ASB. Thought in the past you can. For those who is genuine Sino-Kadazan born after 1980 and has chinese surname. Father or mother has genuine Surat Anak negeri or birt cert that state that he or she is a native of sabah, don’t go to the native court but go to the Jabatan Hal Elwah Anak Negeri at Wisma Tun Fuad to expedite a letter for investing in ASB and owning NT land. This letter is not Surat Anak negeri. It works ! I have close relative who did this last year and now has got an ASB account.

If your Surat Anak negeri is genuine and you are truely a native regardless if you have a chinese surname, in the constitution your are a native. they can’t not deny your right. It ‘s your birth right . Or else they are denying the constitution. If they still do, you better vote wisely in the next GE.

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HP Go July 7, 2010 at 9:32 am

Hi, CK

I am about to purchase a piece of CL agriculture land in Papar, but the outstanding lease period is 40 years, can it be extentable after i purchase it and do you know how much do i need to pay roughly per acre for the premium.

from : HP Go

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CKWong July 7, 2010 at 7:14 pm

HI,
You only can apply for land tenure extention after the tenure left less than 10 years. So you have to wait..Happy Investing.

You cannot Grow Land..CK Wong & MY DAD

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Azlan July 7, 2010 at 10:53 pm

Double check with land office. land law in sabah is different from sarawak’s. If not mistaken ppl have done it even more than 10 years balance.

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alex July 12, 2010 at 8:07 am

Hi, Ck,

i about to by a land in sabah and need a lawyer. please introduce.

thanks

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CKWong July 12, 2010 at 8:15 am

HI,
May I know what land you are buying and which area? Happy Investing.

You cannot Grow Land..CK Wong & MY DAD

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Bonny July 14, 2010 at 7:01 am

hai there CK,

there are many cases in Sabah that people are using fake native cert. i would love to know if there a way to know if the native cert. is a fake or genuine? for example, maybe the signature in the native cert.?

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CKWong July 14, 2010 at 8:13 am

Hi,
No way to really proof the originality of our NT Cert. All department are following day to day power to alter the power of NT cert. Your monye talk louder than your NT Cert!!! Happy Investing.

You cannot Grow Land..CK Wong & MY DAD

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Nicholas July 15, 2010 at 5:51 am

Hi,

Any issue with Bumiputra Sabah (i.e sino kadazan) with Chinese surnames buying property developement allocated for Bumi in West Malaysia (i.e Johor). I understand the land ordinance differs in these two states… Some of these developments in Iskander do offer significant discount for Bumi lots…

Cheers

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CKWong July 15, 2010 at 8:10 am

Hi,
Malaysia has 3 different land law that is West Malaysia, Sabah & Sarawak. There is no 1Land Law in Malaysia yet. So better careful when you are trying to use your NT cert which link to your sino-kdz. Happy Investing.

You cannot Grow Land..CK Wong & MY DAD

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bonny July 19, 2010 at 3:03 am

Greeting,

Would love to hear ur opinion regarding this. There are Chinese woman who want to buy our property which is in NT titles. She showed us the NT cert. but somehow, my family and i believe it is a fake cert. We went to check with the JPN and her birth cert and ic stated that she is chinese. We assumed that the cert. is a fake. What do you think?

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CKWong July 19, 2010 at 8:09 am

HI,
If I’m the seller of NT land..normally I wont care so much. Right? That is buyer problems..whether is fake NT cert or not as the most important you got the money right?Anyway better conclude all the deals with lawyers to advice legal issues in the future. Happy Investing.

You cannot Grow Land..CK Wong & MY DAD

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